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Old 09-04-2006, 6:46 PM
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I heard that they did something to patients with pacemakers? I'm sure that it's just a pure safety precaution in case they did cause some kind of problems. Dang, what a hospital doesn't need is a law suit!!!
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Old 11-04-2006, 2:51 PM
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It can mess with people catheters (a wireless instrument that keeps check on someones heart). Think of all the medical devices it would interfere with.
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:37 PM
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Yeah there is a small chance that your signal could mess with someones life support machine - now that wouldnt be good!
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:38 PM
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It can mess with people catheters (a wireless instrument that keeps check on someones heart). Think of all the medical devices it would interfere with.

Isnt a catheter something thats used to extract Urine? Im sure it is you know!
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Old 12-04-2006, 2:13 PM
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LOL, during my brief residence at my local hospital last year my notes suddenly read "catherer changed overnight" - when I pointed out to the doctor that I didn't have one "installed" she said "are you sure". I think you would know wouldn't you?
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Old 13-04-2006, 12:11 AM
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I heard that the cell phone messes with the technology used by some of the instruments. The same reason you can't call on airplanes.
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Old 14-04-2006, 9:43 AM
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I heard that the cell phone messes with the technology used by some of the instruments. The same reason you can't call on airplanes.

Both in Hospitals and on Planes, there is a small risk that interference from phones could cause problems for electronic devices. In a hospital, many of those devices are keeping people alive or monitoring that they are alive, and on a plane, they're keeping it in the air, so regardless of how small the risk is, is it worth taking?

Don't forget that where you're allowed to use phones, you will find several people using them simultaneously, so it wouldn't just be the interference from a single phone. When it comes to planes there's also the simple fact that you won't achieve sufficient signal, if any, with which to make a call at the cruising altitude of a jet. It would seem however that cell phones have officially been declared non-threatening to planes as various airlines are introducing GSM repeater technology to allow calls to me made from their flights.
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Old 14-04-2006, 7:41 PM
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Yeah, it's the same reason that you can't use them on planes; although they probably won't interfere with equipment, the chance is there, however slim.
Also, there's a practical matter; important equipment like that used in hospitals or on airplanes has to be tested to ensure that any change in its environment (such as interference from a cellphone) won't stop it from working. It's a lot easier to just ban phones than to test every new model that comes down the line. Unless, of course, there's an economic benefit...
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Old 15-04-2006, 11:39 AM
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I've often seen the little FCC notices on devices that are sold in the US, which I being in the UK ignore, however I'm fairly certain it states something like "This device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation"... I always found this incredibly confusing and we have no such law here - it seems strange to me that it's illegal for a device to not be interfered with.

The FCC ruling does also state, however, that a device must not cause "harmful interference". It's surely very difficult to regulate how much interference a cell phone causes through transmitting its signal normally, and how does one define "harmful interference"? If my phone receives an SMS or call when it's within about 10 feet of my amplifier, I hear the familiar interference you've probably all heard before, coming out of the speakers. In the context of the function of my amplifier, i.e. to amplify the inputted audio signal and feed it to the speakers, surely something that alters that sound significantly is "harmful interference", and thus cell phones must break this ruling?

When you hear how much your cell phone interferes with your amp/speakers, you can only begin to imagine what it'd do to a heart monitor for example - it'll be inducing the exact same signal into the circuits and wiring of the heart monitor as it does to the amplifier, it's just the heart monitor isn't outputting it via a speaker for you to appreciate the effect.
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Old 15-04-2006, 12:19 PM
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Everybody has their own meanings for everything. I think in this case, harmful interference is something hat will cause harm to somebody. They should have "phone rooms" in hospitals. But seriously, if a patient is critical, and your phone rings and disrupts the equipment...that's why the rule is there. Its best not to take a chance and turn off your phone. Anyway, shouldn't equipment have shielding? It's not our fault if they don't spend their budget on funding and spend it on nurse uniforms >_>
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